>I am in the process of getting my engine overhauled. Should >I spend the money to get the engine balanced? Is it worth >the money? Will it make my engine last longer or will it >just run smoother (more pleasant)? The engine is an >0-235-C2C mounted in a Grumman AA1B. I realize that >I have to decide this now. I was thinking of getting a >dynamic prop balance sometime. Would that be a waste >of time if I do not do the engine balance? What, exactly, are you thinking of when you talk about balancing? Are you talking about matching piston and rod weights in excess of the manufacturer's specifications? Micro balancing the crankshaft? In general those kinds of practices have very little return - especially in a four cylinder engine like your O-235. The opposed fours have a fundamental second order secondary moment imbalance that cannot be eradicated without adding a balance shaft to the engine. They're just natural shakers to begin with. No attempt to "blueprint" that engine is going to make it seem smoother or alter its longevity. To the contrary actually. An incompetent shop could easily damage your engine in the quest for balance by removing material from connecting rods and pistons. I would not recommend going beyond Lycoming's recommendations regarding balance. Specifically, they do not recommend mixing Lycoming and older Superior SL-13623 pistons in the same engine as the weights differ for O-235 engines (see Service Letter L215). They also recommend that all replacement pistons be checked and compared for weight (see Service Instruction 1243). In general, get the pistons in opposite bays to match, weight-wise. Do this by ensuring that pistons in opposite bays are of the same weight code or, if they are not marked with a weight code, that they actually weigh within a few grams of each other. Whatever you do, do NOT try and "micro balance" pistons by removing metal! Connecting rods are a different animal. It is especially important that the big ends of the connecting rods be in balance in order that the crankshaft be in dynamic balance. The easiest way to do this is to LEAVE THEM ALONE. You will almost certainly be putting the same connecting rods back into the engine with the same crank. The factory already took care of balancing them together. Just make sure that each con rod goes back on the crankpin from which it was removed and there should be no problem with balance. In the event that a connecting rod or two needs to be replaced then make sure the replacement is of the same weight code (A, B, D, or E) as the original or is the "catch all" intermediate S weight code. I AM a big fan of a "prop balance" when the engine and prop are all back together and running. This is the kind of balance you get with a Chadwick or MicroVib machine and adding weights to the prop spinner. You should do this. In sum: If your shop is trying to push you to have your engine "balanced" during overhaul then ask them how they intend to do this. If the method involves removing metal from ANY internal engine part then WALK AWAY. If it simply involves sound overhaul practice such as weight-matching pistons in opposite bays they say "that should be standard practice, why are you charging me extra for it?" In general there should be no need to rebalance your crankshaft itself unless the bearing journals are being ground undersize. In that case, make sure the shop has the proper equipment to dynamically balance the crank. Also, unless a problem is found with a connecting rod (which is unusual) then all the original connecting rods will simply go back in as they were. No balancing required here. If you do have to replace a connecting rod then it should be WEIGHT MATCHED with the other rods in accordance with Lycoming's instructions. For further reading, here is what Lycoming has to say on the subject: "After certifying hundreds of flat, opposed cylinder aircraft engines, and after building more than a quarter million engines for general aviation, is it possible that Lycoming engineers have not leared what it takes to produce an engine which is properly balanced? ... To put it simply, the subject of engine balance is well understood by Lycoming and is a consideration in the design and manufacturer [sic] of all Lycoming engines. ... These statements are contrary to what has been implied by several advertisements and magazine articles. ... The implication is that the manufacturer knows nothing about balancing an engine and simply throws the parts together without consideration of the importance of balancing. This is absolutely false. Lycoming engines are very carefully balanced to the degree which is necessary. They are not balanced to a point of absolute perfection because they run at relatively low speeds (compared to some automobile engines) and therefore do not require the degree of balancing being advocated by shops which deal in this specialty. ... There are occasions when dynamic balance of the prop/engine [such as with a Chadwick or MicroVib machine - grt] combination can provide reduced first order vibration, but additional internal balancing of Lycoming engines is not required nor recommended. ... ADDITIONAL INTERNAL BALANCING CONTRIBUTES LITTLE TO ENGINE SMOOTHNESS AND IT MAY EVEN BE HARMFUL WHEN MATERIAL IS REMOVED FROM HIGHLY STRESSED PARTS OF THE ENGINE [their emphasis] ... To summarize, these are the points we have attempted to communicate by providing information about the balancing of Lycoming reciprocating engines. First, Lycoming engineers have acquired vast amounts of data through years of engine testing. This knowledge is used to insure that Lycoming engines are carefully balanced during manufacture. It is also used to formulate a system which allows satisfactory engine balance to be maintaned when weight matched parts are replaced during the operational life of the engine. The engine balancing done by Lycoming is part of an organized system which is intended to provide a quality product. The second point is that additional internal custom balancing is not recommended by Lycoming. It simply is not necessary, and therefore engine owners would be well advised to save their money." greg